How to Lose Friends and Infuriate People!
How to Lose Friends and
Infuriate People!
For most the story begins after Paul and Penny Westhead, owners of Cashitz and Surfwize introduced a $10 admin fee in May 2005 (payable every six months) coercing their members to pay this admin fee before being able to receive any cashout. Then, when members requested their cashout (money they're owed by Cashitz/Surfwize) they were not paid and to date still have not been paid.
That is Paul's way to defraud and scam his unsuspecting members of more cash, without taking responsibility or being accountable for his incompetence, therefore he has consequences to face. Both he and his wife are incapable of sticking to their word owing to their total lack of integrity, greed and ego then turn around and blame everybody else for their ignorance, incompetence and inefficiencies!
This is totally illegal as even free members are unable to surf to build up their account to achieve a cashout level.So now the controversy rages on:
The following is an excerpt from my mailing sent to my AutoSurfsubscriber's on 24 July 2005 View the complete article in my RSS feed
or at http://www.ebiztriumphs.info
Subject: Friend, Scam and Internet Fraud Alert
Hello Friend,
This is to advise you that cashitz.net and surfwize.com
are failing to pay members. The owners, Paul and Penny
Westhead have communicated to my most reliable source,
in writing, that they do NOT intend to pay monies owed.
We are filing grievances against the programs and the
owners and are hiring a lawyer to pursue this matter.
The primary intent is to collect money owed and to
prevent these unscrupulous owners from simply closing
the doors on these sites only to reopen other programs
in which they will repeat the scam and fraud.
end of transcript~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Updates can be found at:
Subscriber/s posted to a couple of forums and one
forwarded my mailing to Paul... Here's Paul's email to me:
----- Original Message -----
From: paul westhead
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Fwd:, Scam and Internet Fraud Alert]
Hi i would like to know what the hell you think you are doing
sending this sort of email out , i paid out over $40.000 in june
and started to pay out in july but we had to change servers,
before you send any emails out i sugest you do your homework
please do get a layer i would like to talk to him about slander
and trying to put cashitz and surfwize out of business so i
sugest you send a email out on how wrong you are
good day
paul
At first I wasn't going to waste my time or bother dealing
with this low-life scumbag scammer..... UNTIL I received
this email from another trusted source and friend David
Cannard on 4 August:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Autosurfinfo Admin "
To: "Christie Beaud"
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:12 AM
Subject: Cashitz/Surfwize
Hello everybody,
This is a sad day as it marks the end of a relationship
I had with some people I used to call my friends. Most of you are or have been
members of Cashitz and Surfwize, and like me, most of you are still waiting to
be paid by both of these sites. Despite the poor treatment I have received from
both of these sites over the last 3 months, I have resisted the urge to publicly
denigrate either site. A few of you already know that Paul deleted my account
and kept all my earnings because of a comment I made in his forum. Those of you
that are aware of this are also aware that I was denied any right of reply, and
every further post I put in his forum was deleted. I was prepared to accept
this without making the issue too public, as I had made a mistake, and instead
of being 3 months overdue for payment it was only 6 weeks. Still not acceptable
for a site that promotes itself as having a 100% payout record. I kept a
copy of the response he deleted and you can see it at
http://autosurfinfo.com/openletter.html
As if that wasn't sad enough I have been waiting since 1st of May for cashout
at Surfwize. The last payout I received was during the month of May for April
earnings. I am owed for May, June and July, as are most of you. As you are
also aware Penny is a member of dadndaves autosurf. Due to the fact that Paul
and Penny were the original hosts of dadndaves autosurf, (that's another story
in itself, and you are all aware of the problems I had just after launch) Penny
had many hours start on the rest of the field when it came to promoting
dadndaves, and as a result won the referral contest for May, which I paid her
for. She had no earnings to cashout for May as she had compounded them, but I
would have paid her, as I paid everyone else who was due. She then came 3rd in
June, which I asked her to deduct from my June cashout. Of course the June
cashout never came. I also paid her on the 3rd of July for her June
earnings, after she promised me the cashout button at Surfwize would be open on
the 7th of July for all members. Almost a month later the cashout button is
still not open, the site is down, and she tells me she cannot pay because " I
can not get into the control area to pay members out at the moment", but the
front page of her site clearly states "and payouts are continuing whilst we are
down". Which is true?? Obviously, by the number of emails I have been
receiving from other disgruntled members the possibility of being paid is
becoming less and less by the day. I did not think it was fair on me, or other
Surfwize members, to have to wait 3 months to be paid, so I put her dadndaves
earnings "on hold" until I at least got some sort of response from her as to
when payouts would begin.
I then received an email from Penny demanding that I pay her what I owe her
today. "Demanding"?? What do you think would happen if you or I "demanded" to
be paid from Cashitz or Surfwize. All I asked for was some answers and I got my
account deleted, imagine what would have happened if I demanded to be paid.
Perhaps those of you who are still waiting should send her an email now and
"demand" to be paid. You'll probably get the same response from her as she got
from me, an angry email. I suggested we delete each others accounts and move
on, as despite her problem with arithmetic, the amount she owes me is similar to
the amount I owe her. The response I got to that was even stronger than a
"demand". Threats already!! "ok, I will treat you as a SCAM, and believe me I
can shout.", "You have 24 hours to pay me or I will close you down, if you don't
think I can watch and learn." and
"Pay me today or face the consequences." Well I would like to put the
record straight. Dadndaves is not a scam, dadndaves pays it's members when
payments are due, dadndaves does have a business plan that will guarantee your
payouts now and well into the future, unlike some others that stumble along for
12 months, then find out they can't do it properly and have to hire a "business
consultant", dadndaves does not, and will not ask it's members to pay a $10 fee
in order to keep operating, only to go offline a few days later, dadndaves does
not claim to have a 100% payout record, and then renegue on that claim,
dadndaves has a 99.9999% payout record, the only person who hasn't been paid is
Penny Westhead. For the record I have deleted Penny's account under the terms
on my front page which state "You won't get your account deleted unless you try
to defraud me" Penny has defrauded me and thousands of her members by
continually promising payouts which never come, then by charging a $10 fee to be
able to make payments, and still not paying. I will let the readers decide who
the scam is. Full transcripts of the aforementioned emails can be seen at
http://autosurfinfo.com/scam.html.
This is a sad day, and I didn't want to have to go public in this way, but if
anyone wants to declare that dadndaves is a scam then I have to take the
necessary steps to protect the integrity of the program.
Thank you all for listening
Happy surfing
David
That's when I KNEW in my heart of hearts that I HAD Paul the scammer replies: I expect your apology very, very, soon. My Reply: This, sadly ladies and gentlemen is the despicable nature of the beast of what and whom we're dealing with! It should be very clear to you now why I hesitated to take or waste my precious time and breath on this total & utter JERK. Fact is, he CANNOT prove or substantiate his claims of paying anyone, period. When the Forums are FULL of postings of "Not Being Paid" by either Cashitz or Surfwize PLUS hundreds more substantiated by email to us, there shouldn't be ANY doubt in YOUR mind as to who has or hasn't been paid! When thousands have NOT been paid and this moron will NOT produce ANY proof, who are YOU going to believe..?? Nobody is attempting to close his companies down! He's doing a good job of that himself and doesn't need our help! All we want is the truth and be paid what we're rightfully owed by his company. The truth will ALWAYS prevail. With the deadline having been reached, here is how this inept, petty-minded, cynical scam artist chose to word his FINAL REPLY to me. You bet I'll post your reply you scammer.... I want the world to see for themselves what an untrustworthy, lying, scheming and conniving, 'can't even read what is requested' jerk you are. These are the choice words you can expect from this scamming crowd should you ever choose to be scammed by them again.... ----- Original Message ----- On 5 August 2005 I was able to log into my cashitz account ..... the following is a notice Hi we started to cash members out yesterday but at the moment it is impossible we have an engineer working on upgrade to the server , also around the 10th june we cashed out 400 members then we had a glitch in the database and it took the database back by 2 days so i No kidding Paul - and whilst you're about auditing, get the pointers in place. Guess that comes from deleting some accounts from the basic data and not getting all the relevant sections attached to the persons you deleted! Hi to all Cashitz Members, We are still having some problems with the new hardware on to our new server. Therefore we have decided to take the site off line whilst this problem is sorted out. All members will be credited for the downtime and payouts are continuing whilst we are down. We should be back up and running within the next few days. thanks Admin Please have patience as there is nothing we can do until the server problems are corrected and this is out of our hands. (my comment... yeah, right!!)
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
To: "paul westhead" XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: Re: [Fwd:, Scam and Internet Fraud Alert]
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 18:15:00 -0600
Dear Paul
You're a fine one to make demands of and threaten me!
Prove me wrong, please! Go ahead, make my day.
Prove to me that you made cashouts amounting to $40'000
in June, to anyone OTHER than yourself, Penny, your companies
or fronts that you may be using. I want full names, amounts and
dates paid.
After you supply me with this information and only when this occurs,
I'll gladly retract my statement.
Oh! and btw a copy of this is going out to Ken Belz and David Cannard
and as you're probably aware, amongst us we have 000's of subscribers,
so someone who's been paid by you WILL be on one of our lists, enabling
us to confirm.
As being some of your best customers, how come none of them were paid
from May onwards?
Come right out and tell us the truth Paul.
What's going on with your sites and why
is *NOBODY* being paid?
Sincerely
Christiane Beaud
From: paul westhead
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Fwd:, Scam and Internet Fraud Alert]
i will look forward to your most sincere apology, plus any recompence you
feel you owe me for badmouthing my business.
----- Original Message -----
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Fwd:, Scam and Internet Fraud Alert]
You have exactly 24 hours from now to provide me with:
* Names of all Cashout Recipients
* Amounts Paid to all
* Dates they were paid
You will have this information to me by:
12pm noon August 6, 2005
From: paul westhead
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Fwd:, Scam and Internet Fraud Alert]
Right, now that's enough, you have deliberately started a hate campaign against our business and I will take no more.You have picked on the wrong guy this time. Here is what you can do, you and ken and dave cannard, get together and get a solicitor and take me to court. No more crap and tittle tattle, TAKE ME TO COURT.you want proof that i have paid out, why??? do you want all my members payment processor information, why would you want that??? perhaps you are trying to scam them??????I DO HAVE THE PROOF OF PAYMENTS MADE BUT I WILL NOT GIVE THEM TO A NOBODY SHITSTIRRER LIKE YOU, WHY SHOULD I, WHO ARE YOU ANYWAY?????????BOTTOM LINE IS SHUT YOUR BIG LYING EVIL MOUTH AND TAKE ME TO COURT. I WILL WIN I HAVE ALL THE PROOF AND THEN YOU AND YOUR EVIL MATES WILL HAVE TO PAY ALL COSTS. DONT YOU THINK I HAVE HAD WORDS YOU SCUM, I CAN SUE YOU AND KEN AND DAVID (JOIN THIS AND THAT TO GET ME LOADS OF COMMISSION) CANNARD I AM QUITE PREPARED TO TAKE YOU FOR MALICIOUS GOSSIP, SLANDER, LIABLE ETC, YOU HAVE DELIBERATELY SLANDERED MY NAME ALL OVER THE NET AND I AM NOW GOING TO TAKE ACTION, JUST WATCH. ITS MY TURN NOW YOU LYING SCUM.YOU HAVE TRIED TO SHUT ME DOWN NOW ITS MY TURN, WATCH OVER THE NEXT 48 HOURS AND WEEP YOU EVIL NASTY PIECE OF SHIT.BY THE WAY CASHITZ HAS OVER 12000 MEMBERS SO HOW COME ONLY 3 MEMBERS ARE SAYING THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PAID. KEN DID NOT EVEN REQUEST A CASHOUT!!!!!!!!!!!I HAVE STORMPAY, PAYPAL AND EGOLD RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS MADE IN JUNE AND JULY SO PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE TAKE ME TO COURT.STICK THAT UP YOUR ARSE YOU AND BRING IT ON.WATCH AND WONDER .I BET YOU WONT PUT THIS ON YOUR SITE WILL YOU???????
http://xtreamsurf.com/XtreamNet/viewtopic.php?p=555#555
and http://xtreamsurf.blogspot.com/
paid the members but it does not show on the system i wrote to members to email me if their account had too much money in it but no one emaild me so now when iam cashing a member out i have to do a full audit of there account so it is taking 10 mins to cashout 1 person and i have 600 cashouts to do but i have to audit everyones account .
If any member has been cashed out and the balance has not been taken from your account, please let me know so I can cash you out quickly and to save your account being audited.
- logged into my account .... what a joke!
Firstly got someone else's information.
Logged out and back in again - got my
info - clicked on credits to allocate got
someone else's list of sites. Hit my back
button and yet again got someone else's full
information. Logged out and back in again
clicked on email address.... yes, got yet
another person's data.
Incredible! Logged out and back in again and
got yet someone else's info.......... should I carry
on this way I could access everyone's information!
Should you have a Cashitz account PLEASE verify
what I'm saying! Click on any of your information
arrows, email, credits to allocate, etc then hit your
back button and see whose information you next get.........
what a totally hideous situation.
The site is totally insecure and corrupt.
All the pointers are incorrect.
This leads to us HAVING to take MASSIVE action
as this infringes on our privacy.
Nobody can do anything with your information except
to spam you.
No proper backup of our information was done by Paul.
Pretty pathetic state of affairs Cashitz is in, don't know
why he bothered to open it!
Please, if YOU HAVE or ANYONE you personally know,
HAS RECEIVED a cashout from Surfwize and Cashitz since
1 May 2005 PLEASE step forward. Should you not want to
reply to me, that's fine... PLEASE post in ANY of the forums
using your REAL name, NOT as a guest. I really find it so
difficult to believe that among the thousands receiving this
letter so far not one single person has come forward to give
anyone even a glimmer of hope that they've received a cent
from either scam site..... yet Paul purports to have paid out
$40k in June 2005.
Only comments on whether you HAVE received a cashout will be permitted.
Give us your Full Name, Amount Received and Date Paid (after May 2005). ALL others will be removed. This is NOT a forum!
Regarding the $10 admin fee most of us paid in May 2005, this was a NEW set of
rules that not even their own FAQ's or Terms and Conditions referred to.
Their Home page stipulates "100% Pay out Guarantee" - That's got to be the joke of the century because we STILL haven't been paid by either site since 14 March 2005. On 2 August 2005 they changed their home page to reflect the admin fee, however still guaranteeing earnings. This message has been on for a number of weeks:
posted by Christie Beaud @ 4:27 PM
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